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"While Britain falls short of the st...re Ben <br /><br />"While Britain falls short of the standards expected in a liberal democracy, it is not a police state. First, it is still possible to form organisations and ‘speak out’ as my posting of this comment shows; and neither are the courts or political authorities under police control.<br />Aldin<br /><br />It is still possible to form organisations and speak out, but the state will film and photograph you while you do it, and hold the information collected on a secret database. Not a Police State?<br /><br />The courts and police authorities are under political control. Much more indicative of a Police State than your definition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-84301632831226190572010-04-09T09:46:24.685-07:002010-04-09T09:46:24.685-07:00Ian: "he is a violent and aggressive man - wi...Ian: "he is a violent and aggressive man - with no place in the Met." Given the way violent and aggressive men (and the occasional woman) fill the ranks of the Met, I'd say he is in good company.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-19809309744316517142010-04-09T07:30:50.929-07:002010-04-09T07:30:50.929-07:00Smellie belongs to one of the worst units in the T...Smellie belongs to one of the worst units in the TSG which has a catalogue of disciplinary problems and issues. <br /><br />He, now Sergeant, is guilty of masking his shoulder identification on more than one occasion, takes pride in his aggressive approach and will now feel justified given the collapse of the case.<br /><br />The case was going no-where as Miss Fisher did not appear - if she had done so, Smellie would have been toast. A highly trained public order officer mistaking a carton of orange juice for a weapon? The line of questioning would have least have shown he is a violent and aggressive man - with no place in the Met.<br /><br />Regards: IanIannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-37708429761100318832010-04-07T06:18:17.066-07:002010-04-07T06:18:17.066-07:00Reply to M de Plouquenet
Is Britain a police stat...Reply to M de Plouquenet<br /><br />Is Britain a police state? Well it depends what you mean by police state.<br /><br />Britain has a vast and growing web of laws to restrict individual freedom and action by civic organisations. State surveillance is mushrooming. Police and other law enforcement agencies are inadequately held to account by political and judicial authorities, and within limits enjoy almost a free hand. Imprisonment and other sanctions are often unduly severe.<br /><br />While Britain falls short of the standards expected in a liberal democracy, it is not a police state. First, it is still possible to form organisations and ‘speak out’ as my posting of this comment shows; and neither are the courts or political authorities under police control.<br /><br />It’s better to use language carefully because when we actually live in a police state we will have cried wolf and our language will have been devalued. That may be no comfort to the relatives of Ian Tomlinson, nor to Nicky Fischer as she danced in pain after Smellie’s blows to her thighs. Yet facts and emotions are separate things.Ben Aldinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619625102343978571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-73664177845271362802010-04-07T03:40:04.107-07:002010-04-07T03:40:04.107-07:00M de Plouquenet
Is that a new name again??M de Plouquenet<br /><br />Is that a new name again??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-22431301932580078322010-04-07T02:27:08.041-07:002010-04-07T02:27:08.041-07:00Post de Menezes & Tomlinson one does not need ...Post de Menezes & Tomlinson one does not need to prove Britain is a de facto police state. P.C Sparta is paid to keep an eye on us. How quaint. It is not that the people are in contempt of court, but that the courts are held in contempt by the people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-7441161209994362462010-04-06T04:07:01.357-07:002010-04-06T04:07:01.357-07:00From a policing point of view Nicola Fisher, a par...From a policing point of view Nicola Fisher, a participant in a small demonstration of people, was at most irritating and perhaps in the way. Officer Smellie saw fit to give her a back-hand across the face and then calmly removed his baton to administer two hard strokes on her thighs before turning his attention to other things. His misfortune was that everything he did was filmed.<br /><br />To dispel the view that gratuitous police violence was tolerated, and to assuage the concerns of Daily Mail readers, the authorities needed to throw a police officer to the wolves. Of the recorded police violence against demonstrators in April 2009, the Fisher incident was not the most serious, but it was the most suitable for prosecution. Officer Smellie made the ideal fall guy; he looks like a thug, and he hit a woman.<br /><br />Yet Fisher didn’t play ball and failed to turn up to the trial. And in those circumstances Smellie was exonerated. <br /><br />Thus the unofficial precedent of the Fischer case is that arbitrary violence against demonstrators is acceptable police behaviour; this is not what the authorities wanted. While, of course, police have often beaten left-wing and ‘alternative’ protesters at will, it is another matter to be seen to be giving it official sanction.Ben Aldinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619625102343978571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-2477925602460901182010-04-05T08:50:09.164-07:002010-04-05T08:50:09.164-07:00Spot on....
1 - No idea, as i have had nothing to...Spot on....<br /><br />1 - No idea, as i have had nothing to do with this case nor belong to the MET.<br /><br />2 - Again, no idea. CPS in my area are crap. I doubt they are any better in the London area. Ref to FITwatch earlier post. <br /><br />As for Sgt Smellie, who is clearly a nob. Im glad he is not on my team, i would look to work else where. He has been found not guilty, where you agree or not thats the verdict. Personnally i would like to see a end to civilians being brought in to do intelligence work and the like. They cost more, believe me i worked in Admin, also they have no real training and little understanding. I would like more discipline. Also people should realise that we spend more investigating police officers than we do crime at a divisional level. The reason, because any complaint however silly or stupied must be investigated by a DC from PSD. So one was a officers who looked scruffy, took one month, 3 statements and a DS to get rid of it...great...welcome to the new world order.jonspartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01090653162166590054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-43337901098840662312010-04-04T16:08:00.324-07:002010-04-04T16:08:00.324-07:00Re: 11.42: As I said in my post, I didn't thin...Re: 11.42: As I said in my post, I didn't think internal action would actually be brought, just that it was possible to do if the Met wanted to. As to *why* it should: Sgt Smellie has clearly brought down the reputation of the force so should face sanctions (nobody can sensibly argue with that). Bad policing does not have to amount to assault.<br /><br />There many professions where an acquittal in a criminal trial would not be the end of the matter and there is no reason why the police should be any different. If the force cares about its professional reputation then it should take action despite what the rank and file may say. In many ways the inadequacy of police disciplinary proceedings, in terms of both imposition and enforcement of sanctions, is of greater concern than a lack of accountability through the courts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-44865718089959591062010-04-04T11:42:35.623-07:002010-04-04T11:42:35.623-07:00Your comment is legal mumbo jumbo. In the real wor...Your comment is legal mumbo jumbo. In the real world why would the DPS or IPCC go against what the judge has said. If he has covered all his actions, which it appears he has then can you imagine the up roar from the Federation and the rank and file officers. To appease the screaming left, the MET could issue, 'Words of advise' Which basically means F all. It has no effect on a orificer and he could choose just to say, " Yea, Cheers Guv!"<br /><br />You are looking to much into it fella!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-81267585478131801632010-04-04T08:05:14.168-07:002010-04-04T08:05:14.168-07:0014.49: "07.22 LOB" why?14.49: "07.22 LOB" why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-56458198927686560892010-04-04T06:39:58.890-07:002010-04-04T06:39:58.890-07:00The 'story of 2nd April' referred to above...The 'story of 2nd April' referred to above is this:<br /><br />The Metropolitan Police are facing a compensation bill of £250,000, after admitting a raid on a climate change group the day after the G20 protests in London last April was illegal.<br />Police burst into the Convergence Centre in east London carrying taser guns, and handcuffed protesters face down.<br />The Met Commissioner admitted it was unlawful to arrest, search them, and force them to be recorded on film, but he refused to apologise to the protestors.<br />This was the day after the big city G20 demonstrations. A large convoy and a heavy handed police presence took up positions around a disused office block.<br />Senior officers claimed intelligence had picked out some of the more violent protestors who overnight had used the building as a squat.<br />As police burst in, the majority of the 70 demonstrators simply sat down. There was no resistance.<br />One person was caught behind a door and threatened. Another officer trained a 50,000 volt taser weapon on the group sitting down. They had come prepared for trouble but there was none.<br />Today the Metropolitan Police Commissioner agreed to pay £3,000 compensation each to two of those demonstrators and admitted the operation was unlawful because there were no reasonable grounds for suspicion.<br />Stephen Grosz, the claimants' lawyer, told Channel 4 News: "We did ask for an apology (from the commissioner), we asked first of all for a public apology to be made to all those who had been arrested. That was turned down.<br />"We then asked whether we could have a private apology addressed to the two individuals whom the Commissioner recognised had been unlawfully arrested, but no apology was forthcoming."<br />The Met response was to say admitting liability is enough.<br />The raid was also armed with photos of suspects from the previous day. Every protestor was filmed by an officer from FIT, or the Forward Intelligence Team, but what forced the Met to concede was that not one of them, contrary to intelligence, matched any of the photos.<br />"The deal we have negotiated with them is they will recover, will use their best endeavours to recover all the copies of the video that they made and that they will destroy them," Mr Grosz said.<br />"They will keep an original which will be under seal in store, and they will keep one copy of the DVD, which is a copy of the original. And as and when people settle their claims their images will be removed from that copy.<br />The Met's now facing a bill for at least a quarter of a million pounds if all 70 demonstrators lodge compensation claims against this illegal police operation, which was described one of the successful claimants as over the top, unnecessary and disproportionate.Fighting Fitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4157912096982330013.post-70910868059626640002010-04-03T14:49:28.181-07:002010-04-03T14:49:28.181-07:00JohnSparta ( Who knows how to use the three shells...JohnSparta ( Who knows how to use the three shells!)<br /><br />07.22 LOB<br />12.45 Mucho Thanko Amigo<br />12.52 You makea no sense!<br /><br />Defence can keep cards help till the last minute. Prosecution must show theirsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com